Keir Hardy, A Labour Party founder and it's first leader.
I see Wallace and Gromit Red 'ead Millibland thinks he can sort out NuLabour's problems
Below is my response to that which sparked a minor facebook debate and made me think about my politics and why they've turned the way they have.
Your party stabbed it's core voter in the back by pandering to the whims of the anti-smoking industry and the lifestyle police. As a fourth generation smoker - third generation Labour voter - I say Labour is no more. Your NuTony created a NuParty that lost its roots. Unless you recognise that smokers are somebody too, you will NEVER be elected again and you don't deserve to be!
AH - I dread the thought of them idiots ever getting in again.
JS - why did you ever vote labour!! even after the war, the bloody socialists freebies grew and grew its now outgrown the private sector whos taxes are mind boggleing the red tape never ending. think about it free cradle to the grave NHS. well it never was free it was bleeding expensive, dont tell me you voted for kinnokio and his leftie friends the liberals. who cant wait to desert back to labour, the cowards.please dont tell me you wanted Blair and not Hague .the unions never gave a flying f**k about the working man..And they care not a jot for the small business man. or for the pubs that have shut down, or that cigs are $5 a packet not a f**king jot..or about open door policy that Brown let rip. if thats socialism you can stick it..what a rats arse they make everytime they get in..PC brigade liblab crap..
JS - PS Ed miliband is a complete nerd, and if hes the old socialist he can take a running jump..in fact socialism is kind of control freakery..
AH - how can anyone vote labour?
Patsy Nurse - JS - I was old Labour for generational reasons. My grandfather fought WW1 and my dad WW2 both poor working class. You start somewhere with politics and for me it's always been about the party that supports the little man. I was't even interested in politics really apart from putting my cross in the "right" place every four years.
I never voted Tony Blair because there was something not Labour about him that I can't put my finger on. I then abstained from voting until last May when I finally found a party that spoke my language - a mixture of both Tory and Labour or something that perhaps I still can't put my finger on.
The smoking ban woke me up politically. It made me look around, and believe me I really wanted to go over to the Conservatives as my political ideology developed but I couldn't honestly see any difference between what they offer and what NuLabour offers.
The NuCons are moving things around, trying to put things right - I accept that - but in the little issues that matter so much to many people - and the important one of the EU - I only see things getting worse.
The Limp Dumps have never mattered to me. They simply take votes from parties that could actually do something useful to bring simple common sense and fair poltiics back to what was once this Great nation of Britain.
I think there are a lot of people out there who are like me even if smoking hysteria is not the issue that most concerns them.
JS - liberal party is no more and there hasnt been a liberal party for yonks. they are not democratic either. the labour lot have now become so far left its unbeleivable Blair was a leftie he was never a conservative not while he was married to chery f**king booth. Cameron is supposed centre right what ever that means ,labour are still run by the unions. the gimmy gimmy more of your money.. cigarette smokers are now so vilified even though they put 10 billion more in taxes into that black hole of freebies. its a disgrace. and my Grandad fought and my uncles in both wars small business folk who never claimed a penny. and would never vote for a socialist red flag flying party .think about it..and some uncles didnt come back. and my Grandad lost a leg in WW1 he was a tinsmith and had a small shop. he returned from war went back in his shop and made his own false leg . he died aged 46....
Patsy Nurse - I think we're on the same side in NuBritain JS.
JS - yes im sad I never met my Grandad or my Great uncle Ted ..bless them all those who fought and died . and those that fight today .. they do not fight and die for constraint on the British way of life,and our freedoms of thought.. our laws, our Country ,they fought for it , political correctness needs burying ..its not the smokers its the PC Brigade..what are these lot of marxist going to ban next.
Feel free while I'm away to debate why you've either switched your traditional party support, stuck with it, or are contemplating changing that support.